{"id":2107791,"date":"2026-08-26T10:05:36","date_gmt":"2026-08-26T08:05:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kohenavocats.fr\/2026\/08\/26\/foreign-founder-french-sas-president-employment-contract-subordination\/"},"modified":"2026-08-26T10:05:36","modified_gmt":"2026-08-26T08:05:36","slug":"foreign-founder-french-sas-president-employment-contract-subordination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kohenavocats.fr\/en\/2026\/08\/26\/foreign-founder-french-sas-president-employment-contract-subordination\/","title":{"rendered":"Can a Foreign Founder Combine a French SAS Presidency with an Employment Contract? Technical Duties, Subordination and Unemployment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A foreign founder may be appointed president of a French simplified joint-stock company, known in French as a soci\u00e9t\u00e9 par actions simplifi\u00e9e or SAS, without becoming an employee merely because the appointment is recorded on the company\u2019s Kbis. The difficult question is different: can the same person hold the corporate mandate and also have a genuine employment contract for technical work, with French payroll and a possible claim to unemployment protection? The answer depends on the work actually performed, the authority under which it is performed, the remuneration attached to each role and the evidence retained by the company.<\/p>\n<p>This distinction matters to founders who live in the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, the United Arab Emirates, Singapore or another country while operating a French subsidiary. The president\u2019s mandate gives corporate authority. An employment contract requires a real job, a separate salary and a relationship of subordination. Social-security affiliation and tax residence add separate layers. A foreign bank account, foreign address or foreign parent company does not settle those questions. This guide focuses on the French SAS and its founder-president; it does not replace immigration advice for an individual moving to France, which belongs to a different desk. It explains how to test the employment contract, how to organise URSSAF payroll and the DSN, and how to prepare the file before a founder asks France Travail for benefits.<\/p>\n<h2>I. Can a foreign founder combine a French SAS presidency with an employment contract?<\/h2>\n<h3>A. What does the SAS presidency give to a founder living abroad?<\/h3>\n<p>The president is the statutory representative of the SAS. Article L. 227-6 of the French Commercial Code states: \u201cLa soci\u00e9t\u00e9 est repr\u00e9sent\u00e9e \u00e0 l&#8217;\u00e9gard des tiers par un pr\u00e9sident d\u00e9sign\u00e9 dans les conditions pr\u00e9vues par les statuts.\u201d The same provision adds that the president has extensive authority to act for the company within its corporate purpose, while restrictions written in the articles generally organise the relationship inside the company rather than allowing the company to deny a third party\u2019s reliance on the president\u2019s authority. The official provision is available in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000006227034\/2026-04-28\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000006227034\/2026-04-28\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Article L. 227-6 of the Commercial Code on L\u00e9gifrance<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This corporate rule does not itself make the president an employee. It also does not state that the president must have French nationality or reside in France. A founder can therefore be appointed from abroad, subject to the articles, any sector-specific rule, identity and filing formalities, and immigration or work-authorisation rules if the founder physically works in France. The corporate appointment and the right to enter or work in France are separate files. A founder who remains abroad should not describe every strategic decision as a French employment activity merely because the SAS has a French registered office. A founder who spends most working weeks in France should not rely on a foreign address as a substitute for a factual analysis.<\/p>\n<p>The appointment should be supported by a clear corporate record. The articles or the shareholders\u2019 decision should identify the president, the duration of the mandate, the body authorised to set or change remuneration, the scope of any signing rules and the rules for reserved decisions. If the founder is also a shareholder, the record should distinguish voting rights, shareholder instructions and the president\u2019s statutory power. That distinction is useful when the same person later claims that some work was performed under a contract of employment rather than under the mandate.<\/p>\n<p>The public registration file is important but limited. A Kbis is the official extract showing a company\u2019s registration information in the French Trade and Companies Register. The greffe is the registry office attached to the competent commercial court. The INPI Guichet unique is the online portal for company formation and modification formalities, and the RNE is the National Register of Businesses. A foreign president may need identity evidence, an address, a power of attorney and documents translated or formalised under the applicable rules. Those documents prove the appointment or the filing; they do not prove that the president has an employment contract, French tax residence or French social coverage.<\/p>\n<p>The practical test begins with the founder\u2019s weekly calendar. Does the founder set strategy and bind the company as president? Does the founder also design software, lead a defined engineering project, perform technical sales work, manage a product function or carry out another job that can exist independently of the mandate? Who gives instructions for that work? Who checks it? Who can change the work plan or impose discipline? Which salary is paid for it? A contract whose only duties are \u201cmanage the company\u201d or \u201crepresent the company\u201d will usually describe the mandate rather than a separate employment position.<\/p>\n<p>The corporate mandate also needs to be separated from any role in a foreign parent. If a United States or United Kingdom parent pays the founder under an advisory or management agreement, the French SAS president\u2019s work may be mixed with services for the parent. The group should identify the employer, the beneficiary of the work, the source of the instructions and the entity bearing the cost. A French payroll document cannot cure an agreement that does not match the operational reality. Conversely, an intercompany invoice cannot automatically remove French consequences from work done for the French SAS.<\/p>\n<p>Article L. 311-2 of the Social Security Code uses a broad nationality and work formulation. It states that the persons concerned include \u201ctoutes les personnes quelle que soit leur nationalit\u00e9\u201d and covers people \u201csalari\u00e9es ou travaillant \u00e0 quelque titre ou en quelque lieu que ce soit\u201d. The full official text is available at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000047452593\/2026-04-27\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000047452593\/2026-04-27\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Article L. 311-2 of the Social Security Code on L\u00e9gifrance<\/a>. The wording does not decide whether a founder has a valid employment contract, but it prevents nationality from being treated as the decisive answer to a French social-security question.<\/p>\n<p>The president\u2019s social classification is also expressly addressed. Article L. 311-3, 23\u00b0 lists: \u201cLes pr\u00e9sidents et dirigeants des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s par actions simplifi\u00e9es et des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s d&#8217;exercice lib\u00e9ral par actions simplifi\u00e9es.\u201d The provision appears on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000038039654\/\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000038039654\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Article L. 311-3 of the Social Security Code on L\u00e9gifrance<\/a>. This is the source of the commonly used description assimil\u00e9 salari\u00e9, meaning employee-equivalent for the general social-security regime. The description is not a universal employee status. It concerns the social-security regime attached to the mandate and does not automatically give the president the full rights of an employee, including unemployment insurance.<\/p>\n<p>That distinction was made visible in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courdecassation.fr\/decision\/6825813860bc8fffffa90735\">Cour de cassation, Second Civil Chamber, 15 May 2025, no. 23-13.763<\/a>. In the decision, the argument that the president did not exercise distinct functions under a relationship of subordination was answered by the statement: \u201cd\u00e8s lors que M. [X] \u00e9tant dirigeant de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9, les dispositions de l&#8217;article pr\u00e9cit\u00e9 sont applicables en ce qu&#8217;elles assimilent son statut \u00e0 celui d&#8217;un salari\u00e9.\u201d The Court was dealing with the social classification of the president and a retirement benefit, not deciding that every president has an employment contract. The lesson for a foreign founder is precise: employee-equivalent social affiliation cannot be used as proof of an employment contract.<\/p>\n<p>A founder should therefore establish two separate columns before drafting documents:<\/p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Corporate mandate<\/th>\n<th>Possible employment contract<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Represents the SAS toward third parties.<\/td>\n<td>Performs a defined technical or operational job.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Uses the statutory authority of the president.<\/td>\n<td>Works under instructions and control for the job.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Receives mandate remuneration if approved.<\/td>\n<td>Receives distinct or clearly identifiable salary.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Does not automatically include unemployment insurance.<\/td>\n<td>May be examined by France Travail if the contract is genuine and the other conditions are met.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>If the same task appears in both columns, the arrangement needs to be redesigned or explained with unusual care. A founder cannot convert presidential decision-making into salaried work by changing the invoice label. The company should document the boundary before the first payment, not after an URSSAF audit, a liquidation or a rejected unemployment claim.<\/p>\n<h3>B. What makes the employment contract genuinely separate from the mandate?<\/h3>\n<p>Article L. 1221-1 of the French Labour Code states: \u201cLe contrat de travail est soumis aux r\u00e8gles du droit commun. Il peut \u00eatre \u00e9tabli selon les formes que les parties contractantes d\u00e9cident d&#8217;adopter.\u201d The official text is available at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000006900839\/2026-05-07\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000006900839\/2026-05-07\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Article L. 1221-1 of the Labour Code on L\u00e9gifrance<\/a>. The document\u2019s title is not decisive. The company and the founder need to show an actual engagement to work for the company, remuneration for that work and authority exercised by an employer over the employee\u2019s technical duties.<\/p>\n<p>French courts usually test the arrangement through three connected questions. First, are the technical duties distinct from the mandate? Second, is there a separate or identifiable remuneration? Third, does a relationship of subordination exist in the exercise of those duties? The fact that the founder is highly autonomous does not, by itself, answer the question. Senior employees can have wide discretion, but the employer must still have the power to give instructions, check the work and sanction a failure to perform. A founder who controls all of the shareholders and all of the company\u2019s resources may have difficulty proving that control exists in the opposite direction.<\/p>\n<p>The Paris Court of Appeal set out the test in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courdecassation.fr\/decision\/672db9582ad607032dc4c00f\">its decision of 7 November 2024, no. 21\/05926<\/a>. The decision states: \u201cLe cumul des fonctions de dirigeant d&#8217;une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 par actions simplifi\u00e9e et d&#8217;un contrat de travail au sein de la m\u00eame soci\u00e9t\u00e9 est conditionn\u00e9 par le respect d&#8217;un certain nombre de conditions, \u00e0 savoir : &#8211; L&#8217;exercice de fonctions techniques distinctes des attributions qui rel\u00e8vent du mandat social ; &#8211; Une r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration distincte ou, a minima, clairement identifiable pour l&#8217;exercice de ces fonctions particuli\u00e8res, s\u00e9par\u00e9es du mandat social ; &#8211; Un \u00e9tat de subordination \u00e0 l&#8217;\u00e9gard de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 dans l&#8217;exercice de ces fonctions techniques, c&#8217;est-\u00e0-dire sous l&#8217;autorit\u00e9 et le contr\u00f4le de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9.\u201d This is a direct test, not a drafting slogan. The file must show what the founder did, what the founder was paid for it and who controlled the work.<\/p>\n<p>A second decision provides a useful warning for founders who rely on payroll or a benefits statement as if it settled the question. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courdecassation.fr\/decision\/6822d292c2c043d9edc460ed\">Cour d&#8217;appel de Versailles, Chambre sociale 4-3, 12 May 2025, no. 22\/03203<\/a>, the court recorded: \u201cConcernant sp\u00e9cifiquement le cumul mandat social et contrat de travail, trois conditions sont exig\u00e9es : des fonctions techniques distinctes du mandat social, une r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration sp\u00e9cifique et un lien de subordination. La charge de la preuve p\u00e8se sur celui qui se pr\u00e9tend salari\u00e9.\u201d The same decision states that \u201cl&#8217;octroi des indemnit\u00e9s vers\u00e9es par France Travail n&#8217;est pas soumis \u00e0 des crit\u00e8res de m\u00eame nature que ceux qui visent, sur le plan judiciaire, \u00e0 d\u00e9finir le statut juridique de mandataire social ou de salari\u00e9.\u201d A past payment by France Travail is therefore evidence of a past administrative decision, not conclusive proof that a court will validate the contract.<\/p>\n<p>For a foreign founder, distinct technical functions should be concrete enough for a third party to understand them without relying on the word \u201ctechnical\u201d. Examples may include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>leading a software architecture project under a product roadmap approved by the company;<\/li>\n<li>performing a defined engineering, design or research assignment with deliverables and review dates;<\/li>\n<li>managing a technical sales or implementation team under a reporting line that is separate from the president\u2019s corporate authority;<\/li>\n<li>performing a professional function requiring qualifications, with clients, work product and quality controls that can be identified independently of strategy; or<\/li>\n<li>holding an operational role after another person or body has retained authority over the corporate mandate.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>By contrast, the following activities normally point toward the mandate: negotiating the company\u2019s main financing, appointing directors, deciding distributions, signing all strategic contracts, setting the group\u2019s policy, approving the accounts, controlling the bank account and giving instructions to the whole business without an independent technical reporting line. A founder may perform those activities well, but their performance does not become an employment job merely because the payroll describes the founder as \u201cchief executive officer\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>The employment contract should identify the job title, duties, reporting line, work location, working-time rules, salary, variable component, benefits, leave and termination rules. It should state how the job interacts with the presidency without merging the two. A separate job description should contain measurable deliverables. If the founder works from abroad, the document should record the countries in which the work is normally performed and the expected French travel. A contract that says \u201cthe employee may work anywhere\u201d leaves the most important social-security and tax facts unresolved.<\/p>\n<p>The reporting line needs special care. If the founder owns 100% of the SAS and is the only person who can appoint or remove the president, the company may struggle to show that it gives binding instructions as employer. If independent shareholders, a board or a group executive genuinely controls the technical work, the evidence may be stronger. If the founder reports to a foreign parent, the group must explain whether the foreign parent or the French SAS is the employer, who pays the salary and who bears the risks of the work. A nominal reporting line unsupported by emails, project reviews or decisions is weak evidence.<\/p>\n<p>The timing of the contract also matters. A founder hired before appointment as president may see the employment contract suspended or challenged when the mandate begins, unless the continued technical job and subordination are proved. A founder appointed first and given an employment contract later should not assume that the later date makes the contract genuine. Courts examine the actual work during each period. The contract, payroll, organisation chart and project records should all show the same chronology.<\/p>\n<p>Unemployment requires an additional warning. A president\u2019s employee-equivalent social status is not the same as unemployment insurance. France Travail can examine whether the employment relationship was real, whether the person had the required loss of employment and whether other entitlement conditions are satisfied. A director\u2019s decision to resign from the mandate, a corporate removal, a contract termination or the liquidation of the SAS may have different consequences. The founder should obtain a written position before relying on future benefits, particularly where the founder owns the shares or controls the employer.<\/p>\n<p>The risk is higher when the employment contract is drafted only to create a safety net. A salary paid for months without technical deliverables, instructions or supervision does not create a reliable employment history. A company should not promise unemployment protection in a founders\u2019 agreement. It should describe the uncertainty, preserve evidence and seek an assessment from the competent institution or adviser before a dispute arises.<\/p>\n<h2>II. How should a foreign founder organise payroll, URSSAF and unemployment evidence?<\/h2>\n<h3>A. How should mandate remuneration, salary and cross-border payments be separated?<\/h3>\n<p>The corporate approval should distinguish at least four categories: remuneration for the presidency, salary under the employment contract, reimbursement of a genuine business expense and distribution of profit. The payment description, accounting entry, payslip, bank transfer and corporate minute should tell the same story. A single monthly transfer called \u201cmanagement fee\u201d is difficult to analyse when the founder is simultaneously president, employee, shareholder and director of a foreign parent.<\/p>\n<p>For the mandate, Article L. 242-1 of the Social Security Code provides: \u201cI.-Les cotisations de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale dues au titre de l&#8217;affiliation au r\u00e9gime g\u00e9n\u00e9ral des personnes mentionn\u00e9es aux articles L. 311-2 et L. 311-3 sont assises sur les revenus d&#8217;activit\u00e9 tels qu&#8217;ils sont pris en compte pour la d\u00e9termination de l&#8217;assiette d\u00e9finie \u00e0 l&#8217;article L. 136-1-1. Elles sont dues pour les p\u00e9riodes au titre desquelles ces revenus sont attribu\u00e9s.\u201d The current official text is available at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000038836902\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000038836902\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Article L. 242-1 of the Social Security Code on L\u00e9gifrance<\/a>. Where French law applies and the president receives mandate remuneration, the company must identify the correct payroll and contribution treatment.<\/p>\n<p>Article L. 136-1-1 describes the contribution base by referring to sums due \u201cen contrepartie ou \u00e0 l&#8217;occasion d&#8217;un travail, d&#8217;une activit\u00e9 ou de l&#8217;exercice d&#8217;un mandat ou d&#8217;une fonction \u00e9lective, quelles qu&#8217;en soient la d\u00e9nomination ainsi que la qualit\u00e9 de celui qui les attribue\u201d. The official provision is available at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000051218225\/2025-02-28\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000051218225\/2025-02-28\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Article L. 136-1-1 of the Social Security Code on L\u00e9gifrance<\/a>. The name on a foreign invoice cannot by itself change the nature of an amount that is in substance paid for a French corporate mandate or employment.<\/p>\n<p>The salary for distinct technical duties should be processed separately, even if the same French payroll provider handles both amounts. The payslip should identify the salary and benefits attached to the employment contract. The mandate remuneration should be approved and recorded separately. If a single payslip is used for operational reasons, the calculation should still show the two bases and the supporting corporate decision. That separation helps with URSSAF, tax withholding, accounting, an employment dispute and any France Travail review.<\/p>\n<p>The monthly DSN is the D\u00e9claration sociale nominative, the electronic payroll declaration sent to the French social-protection system. It carries information about the employee, remuneration, contributions and employment events. A foreign founder paid under French payroll should not be left out of the DSN because the founder\u2019s bank account is outside France. Equally, the company should not submit a French employment category when the founder has only a corporate mandate and the legal analysis does not support an employment contract. The coding must follow the actual legal relationship.<\/p>\n<p>The company must also decide which state\u2019s social-security legislation applies. A founder working from France, a founder working exclusively abroad and a founder working in several countries may not have the same answer. For work in the European Union, European Economic Area or Switzerland, Regulation (EC) No. 883\/2004 and its implementing rules may designate one applicable system. An A1 certificate can evidence a particular position for a defined activity and period. A founder should not reuse an A1 obtained for employment with a foreign parent as if it automatically covered the French SAS presidency.<\/p>\n<p>For a country outside the European coordination system, the company should check whether a bilateral social-security agreement with France applies to the founder\u2019s category of work. The agreement may require a certificate of coverage, set a maximum period or allocate different parts of the activity. If no agreement applies, the company should document why French rules, foreign rules or both are relevant. The analysis should be complete before regular payments begin.<\/p>\n<p>Residence abroad does not automatically eliminate French consequences. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courdecassation.fr\/decision\/6661515dbbc6ae00084dd4bb\">Cour de cassation, Second Civil Chamber, 6 June 2024, no. 21-23.396, published in the Bulletin<\/a>, the Court stated, in a case concerning a French company and a president of a soci\u00e9t\u00e9 anonyme, that \u201cla r\u00e9sidence fiscale du b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaire de la r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration et son affiliation \u00e0 un r\u00e9gime de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale \u00e9tranger \u00e9taient sans cons\u00e9quence sur le principe de l&#8217;assujettissement de ces r\u00e9mun\u00e9rations au forfait social, dont l&#8217;assiette de contribution et le taux appliqu\u00e9 par l&#8217;URSSAF n&#8217;\u00e9taient pas contest\u00e9s.\u201d The case concerned a different corporate form and a specific contribution, so it is not a universal rule for every SAS payment. It does show why residence and foreign affiliation must be analysed rather than treated as an automatic exemption.<\/p>\n<p>A foreign parent agreement creates another risk. In a Paris Court of Appeal decision about payments connected with a Lebanese company, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courdecassation.fr\/decision\/67de532f71d6ac66dfba6b5b\">Cour d&#8217;appel de Paris, P\u00f4le 6 &#8211; Chambre 12, 21 March 2025, no. 21\/10279<\/a>, the decision reproduced the statutory abuse-of-right test: \u201cAfin d&#8217;en restituer le v\u00e9ritable caract\u00e8re, les organismes mentionn\u00e9s aux articles L. 213-1 et L. 752-1 sont en droit d&#8217;\u00e9carter, comme ne leur \u00e9tant pas opposables, les actes constitutifs d&#8217;un abus de droit.\u201d The case involved a foreign technical-assistance arrangement and a social-contribution dispute. A French SAS should therefore retain evidence that an intercompany agreement has real services, a real beneficiary, a market rationale, identified deliverables and a price consistent with the work. The agreement should not be a route for paying the French president\u2019s mandate under another label.<\/p>\n<p>Corporate approval is part of the payroll file. Article L. 227-9 of the Commercial Code states: \u201cLes statuts d\u00e9terminent les d\u00e9cisions qui doivent \u00eatre prises collectivement par les associ\u00e9s dans les formes et conditions qu&#8217;ils pr\u00e9voient.\u201d The provision is available on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/section_lc\/LEGITEXT000005634379\/LEGISCTA000006146048\/2026-03-16\/?anchor=LEGIARTI000006227186\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/section_lc\/LEGITEXT000005634379\/LEGISCTA000006146048\/2026-03-16\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">L\u00e9gifrance, Article L. 227-9 of the Commercial Code<\/a>. The articles may assign remuneration decisions to the shareholders, a committee or another body. The company should follow its own articles and keep the resolution rather than assuming that every SAS president\u2019s remuneration is approved by the same organ.<\/p>\n<p>Related-party rules also need review. Article L. 227-10 describes conventions intervening directly or through an intermediary between the SAS and its president, a director, a shareholder holding more than 10% of voting rights or a controlling company. It states: \u201cLe commissaire aux comptes ou, s&#8217;il n&#8217;en a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9sign\u00e9, le pr\u00e9sident de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9sente aux associ\u00e9s un rapport sur les conventions intervenues directement ou par personne interpos\u00e9e entre la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 et son pr\u00e9sident, l&#8217;un de ses dirigeants, l&#8217;un de ses actionnaires disposant d&#8217;une fraction des droits de vote sup\u00e9rieure \u00e0 10 % ou, s&#8217;il s&#8217;agit d&#8217;une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 actionnaire, la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 la contr\u00f4lant au sens de l&#8217;article L. 233-3.\u201d The official text is available at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000034584108\/2026-01-31\" class=\"kohen-legifrance-popup-link\" data-kohen-legifrance-url=\"https:\/\/www.legifrance.gouv.fr\/codes\/article_lc\/LEGIARTI000034584108\/2026-01-31\" data-kohen-legifrance-title=\"Texte officiel Legifrance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Article L. 227-10 of the Commercial Code on L\u00e9gifrance<\/a>. The company should ask whether the employment contract, parent agreement, benefits or payment route falls within this mechanism or an ordinary-transaction exception.<\/p>\n<p>Dividends must remain separate. They are distributions to shareholders after the company has distributable profit and adopts the required accounts and resolution. They are not a replacement for salary for technical work already performed. A founder who wants to understand the no-salary and dividend question can read the firm\u2019s existing guide on <a href=\"https:\/\/kohenavocats.fr\/en\/2026\/08\/19\/french-sas-president-no-salary-dividends-urssaf-foreign-founder\/\">French SAS dividends and URSSAF contributions for a foreign founder<\/a>. The present article addresses a different question: whether a separate employment contract can be proved alongside the mandate. Treating dividends, salary and mandate remuneration as three distinct categories avoids importing the wrong analysis from one payment into another.<\/p>\n<p>Benefits and expenses require the same discipline. A company car, accommodation, insurance, school payment, flight or home-office cost may be a business expense, a taxable benefit, salary, mandate remuneration or a distribution depending on the facts and the rules. The company should keep invoices, business purpose, dates, users, approvals and the payroll treatment. A founder living abroad should also record the country in which a benefit is used. The fact that the payment was made by a foreign parent does not settle whether the French SAS or the parent was the real beneficiary of the service.<\/p>\n<p>Tax residence is a separate assessment. An SAS is treated as a soci\u00e9t\u00e9 anonyme for certain tax provisions, but the founder\u2019s residence, work location and treaty position still need to be identified. The company should not infer residence from a French Kbis, and the founder should not infer non-residence from a foreign passport. The payroll instruction should state the intended tax source, withholding method, residence certificate and treaty article, with a date for review if the founder\u2019s travel pattern changes.<\/p>\n<p>The payment simulation should begin with gross amounts, not an expected net transfer. It should show the mandate remuneration, employment salary, employer contributions, employee deductions, French withholding, foreign payroll or tax exposure, currency conversion, bank costs and the final net amount. The simulation should state which assumptions depend on an A1, a bilateral certificate or a treaty. It should be updated when the founder moves, changes employer, increases French workdays or begins a new technical role.<\/p>\n<h3>B. What evidence should be prepared for an URSSAF audit or an unemployment claim?<\/h3>\n<p>The strongest file is built before the first payment. It should allow an auditor, a court, a payroll provider or France Travail to reconstruct the founder\u2019s situation without relying on a verbal explanation. The file should contain the facts, the documents, the approvals, the payments and the work product in one consistent chronology. It should also preserve the uncertainty where the answer depends on cross-border coordination rather than pretending that a foreign address resolves it.<\/p>\n<p>At the corporate level, keep the current articles, appointment decision, remuneration decision and any decision changing the president\u2019s powers. Keep the Kbis, the INPI submission or receipt, the identity documents used for the filing and the relevant translations or formalities for foreign documents. If a committee, board or parent company approved a technical employment contract, retain the minutes and the delegation showing that the decision-maker had authority. If the contract is a related-party convention, retain the report and shareholder decision required under the company\u2019s rules.<\/p>\n<p>At the employment level, keep the signed contract, job description, salary schedule, working-time terms, leave records, performance objectives and termination terms. The technical duties should be written as activities that can be separated from the presidency. A useful description identifies the project, deliverables, tools, customers or internal users, reporting manager, review dates and decision rights. If the founder is paid a variable amount, the company should explain whether the variable amount rewards technical results, corporate performance or a dividend-like distribution.<\/p>\n<p>At the operational level, preserve evidence that the contract was lived. This may include project plans, tickets, source-code commits, design files, sales reports, technical meeting invitations, written instructions, approval chains, timesheets, customer deliverables, quality reviews and emails from the person supervising the technical work. The records should show that the president could be instructed, monitored and, if necessary, sanctioned in the technical role. They should not show only the founder\u2019s strategic decisions for the company.<\/p>\n<p>The reporting evidence is often decisive. Keep the organisation chart for each relevant period, the name of the technical supervisor and the records of meetings in which tasks were assigned or reviewed. If the supervisor is a foreign parent executive, explain the relationship between the parent, the SAS and the employment contract. If the founder supervises the entire French team as president, identify which tasks remain technical and who exercises control over them. A single diagram used without updating it after a group reorganisation can create contradictions.<\/p>\n<p>At the social-security level, keep the payroll instructions, employer registration information, payslips, DSN acknowledgements, URSSAF payment records, contribution calculations and any correspondence about the founder\u2019s status. Where another country\u2019s system applies, keep the A1 certificate or bilateral certificate of coverage, the application, the validity period, the activity covered and any renewal. A certificate must match the person, entity, work and period. An expired certificate or a certificate naming only the foreign parent may not cover the French SAS contract.<\/p>\n<p>At the tax level, keep the tax residence certificate, treaty analysis, work-location calendar, French withholding calculation, foreign tax advice, annual reporting documents and evidence of the payment currency and bank account. The company should record why an amount was classified as mandate remuneration, employment salary, dividend, expense or benefit. The founder should keep the same classification in the home-country records. Differences between the SAS ledger, the payslip, the foreign return and the bank narration are likely to generate questions.<\/p>\n<p>At the France Travail level, keep any written request, questionnaire, response, documents submitted and decision. Do not rely solely on an employment certificate issued when the founder leaves. The organisation may investigate the reality of the employment contract, the founder\u2019s control over the company, the reason for termination and the distinction between the mandate and the job. The Versailles decision mentioned above makes the point that administrative unemployment treatment and judicial classification do not apply identical criteria.<\/p>\n<p>A cross-border founder should prepare a short \u201cstatus memo\u201d updated at least when a material fact changes. It should answer:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Who appointed the founder as president, for what period and with what corporate authority?<\/li>\n<li>What precise technical work is performed under the employment contract?<\/li>\n<li>How is that work different from directing and representing the SAS?<\/li>\n<li>Who gives instructions, reviews the work and can impose consequences for failure?<\/li>\n<li>What remuneration belongs to the mandate and what salary belongs to the employment contract?<\/li>\n<li>Where is each activity performed, on which days and for which entity?<\/li>\n<li>Which social-security system applies, and what A1 or bilateral certificate proves it?<\/li>\n<li>Which tax residence, source and withholding analysis supports the payment?<\/li>\n<li>Which corporate body approved the arrangements and any related-party convention?<\/li>\n<li>What event would require a new review: relocation, new parent role, more French workdays, removal, resignation or termination?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>The memo should not be treated as a substitute for the underlying documents. Its purpose is to expose contradictions early. If it says that the founder reports to a technical director, the organisation chart and emails should show that person. If it says that the founder works primarily in the United States, the calendar and travel records should make that plausible. If it says that the founder\u2019s salary rewards software development, the company should be able to show the software work.<\/p>\n<p>The file should also explain what is not being claimed. A founder may be president without being an employee. A founder may be employee-equivalent for social-security purposes without having unemployment coverage. A founder may receive dividends without those dividends being salary. A foreign parent may have a real service agreement without that agreement covering the French president\u2019s mandate. Clear limits make the legal analysis more credible.<\/p>\n<p>If URSSAF questions the file, the company should compare the authority\u2019s request with the relevant period and payment category. It should respond with the appointment, corporate approval, work evidence, payroll records, coverage certificate and classification memo. If the authority recharacterises amounts, the company should examine the observations, the basis of the reassessment and the deadlines for responding or challenging it. An informal call to the payroll provider is not a substitute for preserving procedural rights.<\/p>\n<p>If France Travail questions an unemployment claim, the founder should submit evidence specific to the employment contract rather than only evidence of the presidency. That means technical deliverables, instructions, reviews, payslips, DSN records and the termination facts. Ownership and corporate control should be addressed directly. A founder should not conceal share ownership or describe a voluntary corporate decision as an employer-imposed dismissal. Inconsistency can damage both the unemployment file and the company\u2019s social-security defence.<\/p>\n<p>The company should review the file after every material change. Examples include the founder taking control of a new parent, replacing the technical supervisor, moving to France, spending more time in France, hiring the first French employee, switching payroll providers, paying through a foreign entity, receiving a company home or car, changing the salary or removing the president. A new Kbis entry may be required for a corporate change, but the absence of a Kbis change does not mean the social-security or tax analysis stays the same.<\/p>\n<p>For founders comparing the SAS with other French structures, the firm\u2019s broader <a href=\"https:\/\/kohenavocats.fr\/en\/2026\/08\/17\/set-up-business-france-foreign-founder-company-formation\/\">French company formation guide for foreign founders<\/a> provides the general formation context. The corporate formation decision, the appointment of a president and the later employment-contract analysis are connected but not interchangeable. The employment question should be answered from the founder\u2019s actual work pattern, not from the marketing description used when the company was incorporated.<\/p>\n<p>The following checklist can be used before the first payment:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Corporate appointment:<\/strong> articles, appointment decision, Kbis and INPI filing evidence.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Mandate remuneration:<\/strong> approval, start date, amount, payment frequency and expense rules.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Employment contract:<\/strong> distinct duties, salary, reporting line, work location and deliverables.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Subordination:<\/strong> supervisor, instructions, reviews, working records and disciplinary authority.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Social security:<\/strong> French payroll analysis, DSN route, A1 or bilateral certificate and renewal date.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Tax:<\/strong> residence certificate, treaty analysis, withholding calculation and foreign reporting.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Cross-border group:<\/strong> service agreements, invoices, beneficiary of work, transfer-pricing support and payment trail.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Unemployment:<\/strong> written information from France Travail where the founder plans to rely on a separate employment contract.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A founder can make a cross-border SAS arrangement workable, but the legal strength comes from consistency. The contract, corporate minutes, organisation chart, actual instructions, technical output, payslip, DSN, certificate of coverage, tax treatment and bank transfer should describe the same reality. When they do not, a foreign address or a sophisticated group structure may add complexity without adding protection.<\/p>\n<h2>Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>A foreign founder can hold the presidency of a French SAS and may also have a separate employment contract, but the second status is not created by a job title, a payslip or the phrase \u201cassimil\u00e9 salari\u00e9\u201d. The founder must perform technical duties distinct from the corporate mandate, receive separate or clearly identifiable remuneration and work under a genuine relationship of subordination. The burden of proving that separation becomes more demanding when the founder owns the company, controls the shareholders or directs the entire business.<\/p>\n<p>Before the first payment, the company should approve the mandate and remuneration under its articles, draft the technical employment contract, identify the reporting line, determine the applicable social-security legislation, obtain an A1 or certificate of coverage where relevant, set up the correct French payroll and DSN route, and document tax residence and withholding. It should retain work product and supervision evidence throughout the relationship. The company should also keep mandate remuneration, salary, dividends, benefits, expenses and foreign-parent payments in separate categories.<\/p>\n<p>Unemployment protection remains a separate question. French payroll or employee-equivalent social status does not guarantee France Travail entitlement. A founder who expects protection after removal, termination or liquidation should obtain a documented assessment before relying on it. A relocation, change of work location, new parent-company role or change in duties should trigger a fresh review.<\/p>\n<h2>Need a quick opinion on your case<\/h2>\n<p>We offer a telephone consultation within 48 hours with a lawyer from the firm to review your French SAS, employment contract and cross-border payroll position.<\/p>\n<p>Call <a href=\"tel:+33646605822\">+33 6 46 60 58 22<\/a> (Ma\u00eetre Reda Kohen), or <a href=\"https:\/\/kohenavocats.fr\/formulaire-de-contact\/\">contact the firm online<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A foreign founder may combine a French SAS presidency with a separate employment contract only when the technical job, salary and subordination are genuine and documented.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":251031309,"featured_media":16306,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kj_source_type":"","_kj_official_id":"","_kj_official_url":"","_kj_judilibre_id":"","_kj_jur":"","_kj_lieu":"","_kj_chambre":"","_kj_rg":"","_kj_date":"","activitypub_content_warning":"","activitypub_content_visibility":"","activitypub_max_image_attachments":4,"activitypub_interaction_policy_quote":"anyone","activitypub_status":"federated","footnotes":""},"categories":[80314,80313],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2107791","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-decryptage","category-doing-business-in-france"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v28.2 (Yoast SEO v28.2) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Can a Foreign Founder Combine a French SAS Presidency with an Employment Contract? 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